Cherchez la femme (juive)
I don't know about other places like Paris and Moscow New York and Jerusalem, but here, in our little village of Annatevka Skokie, it seems that the most serious discussions of faith and lifestyle occur among the women in our community. From what I've overheard over the years, they regularly discuss their relationship to God and Judaism, their dilemmas of belief and practice, etc. Never have I heard such discussions among men. However, on the Internet it is the opposite. Mostly men in the blog discussions and very few women...
posted by e-kvetcher at 8:32 AM
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> Mostly men in the blog discussions and very few women...
Possibly because there are relatively few women tethered to a computer for work.
My personal two cents: I find that internet discussions, although occasionally informative, are generally too mired in stupidity to be worth the effort. The insight:triviality ratio tends to make me tired long before a discussion really gets underway. Thus, there is a certain logic that those who normally engage in the most in-depth discussions of faith might shy away from more shallow forums. I have found that personal discussions tend to be different in tone as well as content from internet arguments- when you're talking face to face, things tend to have a different tenor.
Alternatively, it could be that men are more reluctant to share deeper feelings about such deep matters in person in one of those guy things, so that they need the outlet of the internet.
Hmmm, both of you may be on to something...
Speaking of Skokie women ....
Hidden Treasures: Spiritual Wisdom Through the Eyes of Women in Judaism, Christianity and Islam (Sunday, November 8, and Monday, November 9)
An exciting interreligious conference, celebrating the spiritual wisdom of women, often hidden and sometimes forgotten. Engage in dialogue with other women and men of faith to build relationships and discover new pathways of understanding and peace.
Speakers from the Jewish community include:
Jane Shapiro, Founder, Jane Shapiro Associates: Consultant to synagogues and Jewish organizations in visioning, curriculum programming and professional development. Doctoral candidate in Jewish Education, Jewish Theological Seminary.
Miriam Weinberger, Executive Director, The ARK: A social service agency for the Jewish community in the Chicago area.
For further information and to register, please click http://www.juf.org/PDF/cbr/Hidden_Treasures.pdf
Maybe we should invite the whole gang...RHM, UOJ, XGH...?
EJ,
I don't know - sounds a bit flaky... Are you going?
You couldn't pay me to go. The organizers however are first rate, and exemplify the creativity of Skokie Jewish women. It gives me a lot of nachis to see this sort of event taking place.
OTOH I spend my time trying to understand cyber punk leftists. Islamic women are not my forte.
>OTOH I spend my time trying to understand cyber punk leftists.
Sounds like a worthy pursuit :)
Apples and oranges. One type of discussion is meant to get at the truth of what's being discussed (it's about the subject matter). It involves facts, logic, argument and debate (ideally, of course). The other is meant to make the speaker feel good, and it hardly even matters if the listener is really listening. What's relevant is how the participants feel about something, not whether anything they say is true.
Apples and oranges. One type of discussion is meant to get at the truth of what's being discussed (it's about the subject matter). It involves facts, logic, argument and debate (ideally, of course). The other is meant to make the speaker feel good, and it hardly even matters if the listener is really listening. What's relevant is how the participants feel about something, not whether anything they say is true.
J,
Which is which?
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